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Frequently Asked Questions

Amps

Class D typically refers to digital 'ICEpower’ power sections manufactured by stereo manufacturer Bang and Olufsen that are in just about every bass amp on the market.

They have been pretty revolutionary in allowing amps to get much lighter in a hurry as compared to the transistor based designs that they supplanted. Most amps made post 2006 has used ICEpower.

With Class G Jad Freer is trying differentiate themselves from those ICE modules. They are making the power sections themselves and they are transistor based rather than digital, but done so in a way that produces a light weight and compact power section.

Though arguable not as light weight or as compact as digital, it bridges the gap between how the older transistor (think GK, SWR and Eden) amps sounded, but in a size and weight we don't mind hauling around to gigs

Basses

The 5 string Sadowsky MetroExpress Basses typically weigh around 9lbs.

Bridges

While string spacing matters as the size of the bridge changes, the difference in weight is roughly 5 ounces on a 4 string Hipshot A Style Bass Bridge. 

The Sire V7 basses (and possibly other 5 string basses from Sire) use a mounting pattern that is the same as Fender has used on some Squire 5 strings.   

Here is what the screw mounting pattern looks like modeled on a Hipshot Kickass Mounting Style 2:
 

Hipshot Kickass 5 String Bass Bridge Mounting Style 2 Dimensional Chart



The above measurements that are highlighted pink correspond to the center to center measurements from one screw hole to the adjacent screw hole.
.606" = 15.4mm
.706" = 17.9mm
 

Hipshot's Kickass Bridge with Mounting Pattern 2 is a great choice for retrofitting on a Sire V7 Bass.  The bridge has moveable saddles to dial in string spacing.  It is a high mass bridge that is also= attractive. It does not support string through body mounting.

Other

This is normal.

 

Keep in mind -> The bass player has to be grounded. That is the purpose of the bridge ground. The bridge ground is a wire that goes from the metal bridge on a bass into the electronics cavity to the wiring harness ground.

We can create a bass that has no bridge ground if we use active EMG pickups, but all other pickups brands (passive pickups which make up nearly all, >95%, of replacement bass pickups) require the bridge ground and the players body needs to be grounded for it to work. 

Pickups

T stands for Treble, B stands for Bass. 

 

They do not have to be put as Bartolini originally assigns (T for Bridge, and B for Neck). Bartolini has wound the T pickup to have slightly more output to compensate for less string movement in the Bridge position. 

 

Each pickup is also compensated slightly for its position, so the T is a little less trebly, and the B is a little less bass-y. You can swap them to have a more pronounced difference between the two positions.

The Sterling Stingray 5 String typically takes the OLP shape. This is the long shape WITH screw ears. The spacing matters here. If there is a big chunk of space on the ends, then it is likely 15.5mm spacing.

 

Check the dimensions on your bass to be sure.

 

This diagram (from Nordstrand Audio) shows the dimensions for this pickup

 

9.5” - This suits most Fender J’s except for the vintage and Flea models.

 

The Sire V7 basses take a size that is commonly known as the Fender American Standard 5 String size. 

 

The pickups are roughly:

 

Bridge Pickup ~4.12” (~104.6mm)
Neck Pickup ~4.00” (101.5mm)

 

As always, check your bass.  Manufacturers change dimensions on occasion.

String spacing measured at the pickup location location on the body is:

 

Bridge is 18mm (if measuring from the B to E = 72mm)

Neck is 17mm (if measuring from the B to E = 68mm)

 

*Note, this is not string spacing measured at the bridge, it is the string spacing measured at the pickup.

Both the stock pickups and Bartolini's MM pickups use a black/green/red/white 4 conductor cable.  

Just swap the red for the black wires to wire a Bartolini pickup into the Sterling Stingray system.

The SMB-4A (70s style) is warmer, with less mid range, more scooped…has decent top end presence.  

 

The SMB-4D (90s style) has more mids, less low end warmth resulting in a punchier tone.  

 

They are two fairly distinct pickups where Duncan is trying to capture the changes in MM pickups between the 70s and the 90s.

The Warwick RockBass Corvette 5 string uses two Jazz Bass pickups that are typically thought of as 4 string bridge length.  In the shop, we call them a Long/Long.   

 

Both pickups are  roughly 3.73" (94mm) in length.

 

On our website, this link shows the Jazz Bass® pickups available in a Long/Long configuration:

Jazz Bass® Pickups for 5 String Bass

The Lakland 55-60 J bass takes a pickup size that is the same as Fender's American Standard® size.

 

Fender American Standard: ~4.1" (104mm) X 3.9" (99mm)

 

We stock more than a dozen different pickups that fit this shape. 

 

Check them out: 5 String Jazz Bass® pickups that fir the Fender American Standard Shape

The Ibanez Mikro Basses use normal precision pickup, but and standard jazz bridge position pickup. 

Any stock PJ set will match this configuration.

Click here for our PJ pickups for 4 String Bass 

Here are some of the options:
 
 
Bartolini - They have recognized this as a necessary option.  
 
We can get other versions of their pickups in a long/long version….but build time can vary.  We usually check with Bartolini to see if they have the item on the shelf and ready to go.
 
 
Delano - Will make do any Jazz pickup set in their line up as a Long/Long, aka Bridge normal size, Neck in bridge size.  We get various custom configurations from them pretty regularly for customers as they are very able to do customized pickups within normal lead times.  1 month-ish.
 
Nordstrand - Will often do custom pickups, but delivery time can be a few months depending on their production schedule.
 
 
The remainder of the manufacturers tend not to be interested in doing custom stuff.
 

Unfortunately, Ernie Ball has chosen to go with a new MM pickup shape on recent models.  This shape has no replacements as of the writing of this FAQ (Summer '24).

The pickup looks similar in that it has 2 screw ears on the bass side and a single screw ear on the treble side, however, the overall pickup length is not the same as the two existing shapes that have the 2 by 1 screw pattern.  Bartolini will likely be introducing a pickup for this shape in the coming years.

On Warwick's Thumb 5 String basses, two Jazz Bass pickups of equal length have been used on models that we have come across.  That is, the length of each pickup is roughly 3.73" or 94mm.   


This 5 string size is the same size that is commonly thought of as a 4 string jazz bridge pickup length.

 

Click here to check out pickup sets that are compatible

 

*Measure and physically check your bass to see if it is compatible.

Unfortunately, the Aguilar Super Splits were dropped from the Aguilar pickup line up in the early 2020s.  Nordstrand's Big Splits is what we recommend in leue of the Super Splits.

 

Nordstrand Big Splits 4 String

Nordstrand Big Splits 5 String

Yes - These were discontinued in the early 2020's.   An excellent alternative and the likely inspiration for these pickups is the Nordstrand Big Singles.  These pickups offer excellent tone and quite a solid following going back well over a decade.

 

Nordstrand Big Single 4 String

Nordstrand Big Single 5 String

Yes, these pickups were retired from the Aguilar catalog some years ago.   There are many other good options available:

 

For Fender American Standard size (4.1" Bridge / 3.9" Neck) - 5 String Jazz Bass AS 

For Long / Long sizes (3.7" Bridge and Neck) - 5 String Jazz Bass L/L

Indeed, the Aguilar 5P-60 pickups were discontinued in the early 2020s.   There are many great 5 string P pickups.

Check our our 5 String P Bass selection here.

Yep, the 5 P/J HC pickups are no longer in production.

Check our our 5 String P/J Bass Pickup selection here.

Some basses with tight radiuses (older, vintage Fender®) are well served by having pickups that have raised centers to help the output of the center strings.  

 

Lollar is the only one that builds their standard 5 string j pickups with raised centers.  In case you are wondering why the others do not - It is likely because there are more upgrades happening on more modern basses or basses with flatter radiuses.

 

Lollar 5 String Jazz Bass® - Radiused
Fralin 5 String Jazz Bass®- Flat
Kloppman 5 String Jazz Bass® - Flat in both 60s and 70s
Nordstrand NJ5F 5 String Jazz Bass® - Flat both 60 and 70s
Aguilar 5J 60 5 String Jazz Bass® - Flat
Aguilar 5J 70 5 String Jazz Bass® - Flat

 

If you desire radiused poles from a manufacturer besides Lollar, drop us a line, and we can do a custom order for you.

The best place to start is with a good set of headphones and rolling though our Bartolini Jazz Bass Videos. 
 
9J1 - Deep tone - https://youtu.be/K4OpyNhk95c
One of the oldest of the current models
Deep tone
Hum-cancelling
The top end is a bit rolled off, creating strong lows and low mids.
 
 
9S - Single Coil - https://youtu.be/tFjj0XI_rdY
Another of the oldest of the current models 
Deep tone 
Single Coil
A bit more open than the 9J1
Big and fat sounding
 
 
9CBJD - Classic Bass 1 - https://youtu.be/K4OpyNhk95c
Part of the CB or Classic Bass line up, the top end is not as rolled off.  
More open tone than the 9J1
Hum-cancelling
 
 
9CBJD3 - Classic Bass 3 - https://youtu.be/DERvpZt1eF4
Part of the CB or Classic Bass line up
Bright version of the 9CBJD1
Hum-cancelling
 
 
9CBJS - Single Coil - https://youtu.be/CRshBjuDFTs
Part of the Classic Bass Line up
A bit more open in the top end than the 9CBJS
Single Coil
 
 
 
Higher output
Open and percussive sounding
 
 

Aguilar's DCB soapbars are internally wired in Series.  They do not have the ability to be wired externally in series or parallel.  If you are in search of a set of soapbars that can be wired in series and parallel, check out this group:
4 Conductor 4 String Bass Pickups | 4 Conductor 5 String Bass Pickups 

Aguilar's MusicMan® bass pickups are wired internally in Parallel.  Parallel Wiring is the traditional wiring for MusicMan® style pickups. These MM pickups are not splittable.  Check out M4 and M5 at the following links:


Aguilar DCB M4 MusicMan® Style Bass Pickups

Aguilar DCB M4 MusicMan® Style Bass Pickups

There is a bit of an inherent challenge with getting bright and loud.  To get a louder pickup, the pickup builders overwind the pickups…simply means that they wind more copper around the bobbins.  Adding those extra winds increases output, but sonically, it is at the expense of top end detail/definition.  



What most ears will hear from an overwound pickup, versus a standard pickup, is the that the top end (brightness) is a little lost, and the mids are stronger - kind of overshadowing the top end, and creating a somewhat darker pickup.

 

Generally, we encourage players to focus on the tone qualities, rather than the output levels…and adjust the amp accordingly…and also, make sure the pickups are not too far from the strings.

 

All that being said - I’d recommend the Delano JMVC4 FE/M2 - They have good output, and articulation.  Take a look at the reviews on the following page, as well as the video demo at the bottom of the page:

 

https://fatbasstone.com/products/delano-jmvc4-fe-m2-4-string-hum-cancelling-jazz-bass-pickups

Several brands of bass pickups make a shape that fits the 5 string Lakland 55-02.   Each of the brands from this page will have that shape on their product page.  

5 string MusicMan style bass pickups that fit the Lakland 55-02 

Preamps

There is a slight 3-4 dB lift in the lows (fundamental range) and highs (presence/sizzle range).  Most players really enjoy this small contouring in their tone.

Background: The larger size has been somewhat standardized (Aguilar, Nordstrand…) for quite awhile. It is actually the hole size that has been in jazz bass plates going back many years. The hole sizes in basses are not consistent and in a couple sizes, as the bass manufacturers buy whatever inexpensive pots that they can get cheap unfortunately. Many imports use the small ones, but US manufacturers usually use the larger size.

 

At any rate, it is fairly common to need to enlarge the holes to get pots to retrofit.

 

These two couple videos use two different techniques that show how to enlarge potentiometer holes:

 

https://youtu.be/I3AhFfragdY?t=41

https://youtu.be/bKNAkTWC4xA

 

The only preamp we sell that has the smaller 7mm potentiometer shaft is from Delano.

Nope, the Fender N3 Bass Pickups are a passive pickup, and there should be no compatibility issues.

There are 3 bass preamps that are very well suited Jazz Bass® Deluxe basses:

 

J Retro Deluxe - https://fatbasstone.com/products/john-east-j-retro-deluxe-bass-preamp-for-jazz-bass-deluxe?variant=40267212685475

 

Sadowsky - https://fatbasstone.com/products/sadowsky-onboard-bass-preamp?variant=43932940402927

 

Lusithand - https://fatbasstone.com/products/lusithand-800jp-jazzplate-4-band-preamp-for-jazz-bass-deluxe%C2%AE?variant=44123617034479

 

All include knobs and plate…and are meant to be reasonably easy installation.

 

The big difference between these is all in the bands.

 

J Retro Deluxe is a three band with a variable mid range and passive tone - but, in passive mode you can select only bridge or bridge/neck at equal.
Volume/Blend Stack -- Treble/Bass Stack -- Mid/Frequency Stack -- Passive Tone -- Active/Passive Switch -- Pickup Switch

 

Sadowsky is a two band with boost only on the treble and bass, but also has a passive tone.
Master Volume - Balance -- Vintage Tone Control (Push-Pull) -- Treble/Bass Stack

 

Lusithand is a four band that has mid separate mid controls for lo and hi mids.
Volume - Blend - Treble/Bass Stack - Lo Mid/Hi Mid Stack - Contour Switch - Passive 3 Way Tone Switch - Active/Passive Switch

 

Additionally - The J Retro Deluxe has a built in contour that gives a little lift to the bass and treble. The Lusithand also has contouring, but it is something that can be turned on or off via a switch.

The bushing size refers to the largest diameter part of the potentiometer that inserts through the mounting hole. This is the part of the shaft where nuts and washers are attached.

 

 

The sizes for Bartolini's Potentiometers are as follows:

Volume PushPull - 7mm

Blend Pot - 8mm

Treb 8mm

Mid - 3/8”

Bass - 8mm

 

Check out 2 Band Bartolini Bass Preamps

Check out 3 Band Bartolini Bass Preamps

Yes, all John East bass preamps are sold with knobs included. 

 

Concentric pots have a upper shaft diameter or 6mm and a lower shaft diameter of 8mm.  

 

The single pots (non-concentric) have a shaft diameter or 6mm.

Yes, this is possible.  You can even bypass the blend pot completely.

 

There are 3 wires at the blend potentiometer: 2 white and a black on the solderless connecter.

  • Cut this connector off, connect the white wires and input from your pickup together.
  • The black is for pickup ground (-)